@Junai and @jmob: The desktop client: yes we were thinking about that and also had some great ideas about it…. But… currently we have no resources to start a project like that… So please keep on supporting our work and i am sure we will find a way to get all of those features done ;-)

There’s also another problem with the scenes. A lot of them are mediocre at best. This whole purchasing scenes thing is only worth it if the actual scenes are good. It’s not enough to just stick a pitch shifting delay and call it a “scene”.
Being open source and friendly is all good and nice,and I love the experimental aspect of the whole project, but if you want to make money out of this you have to step the quality way up.

Another point. If some scenes are purchase only, how do I preview the scene to check the quality?

I’m more than happy to pay for good scenes, but I don’t want to pay for something just because it has the RJDJ name on it. So is there going to be a preview system or something? It’s hard since the scenes are not actual audio files to be listened, so you should consider this.

Also you need a proper forum, this blog comment thing is not good for discussion.

Unless you were to partner with a particular artist to release an app based on the RjDj platform (e.g., related to an album release, or one artist releasing an RjDj-based album) I must say I agree with the people who would like to consolidate all their scenes into the Single app. Ultimately, there’s no difference between Album and Single in that the scenes from the former can be downloaded into the latter. You could always ask those who purchased Album and wanted access to the scenes in Single to send you a screenshot to prove they have Album installed, then give them credit :) (way too time-consuming on your part, I suspect).

Are there any plans to consolidate into one app? At the moment it seems like having Single alone would make more sense.

Sure that would be great. Perhaps in the future we could have a dedicated way of transferring to a folder that we designate on our computers? Rjdj is beyond amazing.

all i can say is that you are right… /me thinking about rjdj settings to change the compression rate. would that help?

ok, I understand what you are trying to achieve with this version. However, it just seems downright bizarre that we don’t have a way to export our recordings to our computers for use within our own songs. Rjdj apps are ear candy machines and the fact that we can’t use our recordings without having to use a line out into our computers is very frustrating.

Offering the same music piece through different means is not totally without precursor (is that the right word?): You could get the same track on CD, LP, vinyl single or on a compilation when music still wasn’t reactive. :) I have lots of dupes like that in my collection of physically distributed music.

Frank @ RjDj

@Michael: While I understand your point, I’m still not convinced by the argument that some artists want their scenes to be left as part of a “package”. The only reason why this doesn’t hold up as an excuse to keep the “Album” VS “Single” player app concept, is that nearly EVERY one of the scenes available for the Album can be purchased and loaded onto the Single player app.

We already know that the Album is not comprised of only one artist. If memory serves correctly, there are around 3 or 4 artists showcased in the Album application. If their work can be sold seperately and loaded into the Single player, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to port over our exisiting Album app scenes to the Single player app.

Think of it this way, if someone suggest you needed a dedicated copy of iTunes for every album you bought and had to flip flop between them to listen to your music you would say they were mad!

I think there is two issues. One is releasing a topic or artist specific album as a stand alone app and the other issues is having all the scenes in one place.

issue 1: if apple had released os3 earlier and enabled in app transaction we would certainly only have one rjdj app in the store now. Since that is not the case, our strategy is to release topic or artist specific rjdj apps instead. So lets imagine we are releasing an artist specific rjdj app which has scene download… means you would be able to load other scenes from other artists into the artist specific app… well… does not make sense. right?

issue 2: you want to have one place where all your scenes life. That makes more sense to us and we are discussing this with some of the artists. So buying an artist specific app would enable you to sync the scenes into the “general” rjdj player.. Feelings about this are mixed because it looks like some artists strongly prefer to have their scenes only in their app…. anyway… this is where we are with this topic right now.

The whole idea of music as software is very new and brings some particular problems with it. E.g. everyone knows about software updates but who has heard about an update of the metallica album they bought five years ago? We appreciate all your feedback a lot and it helps to make the next steps and decisions but please lets stop calling the RjDj album a rip off just because we try to make this work for all parties in this game.

Think of the Albums as just that: Albums with a set of (reactive) music in it, bundled with a music player. But the main player is the RjDj app known as Single (yeah, misleading name, but that’s what people are used to by now)

– Frank

BIG FAIL!
Why can’t I use the album version for everything?!
Now I have to bring the free version back to my iPhone
to run 3 (!!!!!!!) RJDJ apps?!

Please make one or two!
But now the free one seems better than the one I paid for?!?!

Right now I have two applications on my iphone, and I have to flip flop between the “album” app and the “player” app depending on what scene I want. I’m just looking to consolidate my scenes. Right now there doesn’t seem to be a way to do this through the “shared space” profile section.